Your doing well kiddo! Never forget you're playing a long term game. Avoid confrountation. As long as you keep using your critical thinking skills and just try to think about other things to ignor the indoctrination at meetings. Remember one reason meetings are so long and boring and repetitive is so that people become too mentally tired to question what's being said!
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My head hurts
by Akid48 inso i still have to go to meeting etc and my head hurts its just im trying to wake up and the teachings are getting shoved back in my head or with field service im giving people papers i want to rip it in my hands.. now its like i need a smoking break i have to just walk out the kingdom hall and get my mind back together.. just something thats new for me.
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"Even if this wasn't the truth, I would still stay. This is the best life to live..."
by HereIgo ini was recently told this by a jw family member when trying to get through to them.
does this quote indicate that maybe such ones have considered that the jw's may not have the truth after all?
or is that just my wishful thinking?
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John Free
This statement is made by those who don't know the real world. It isn't too dissimilar to the thought stopping phrase 'where else is there to go?'. Witnesses have been indoctrinated to believe that the world is a dark, dangerous place. Behavioural control by the Borg has caused witnesses to feel uncomfortable among non members. Hence we get ignorant statements like these.
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Who can guess the number closest to memorial partakers ?
by Chook inmy punt 16144 , do you like my last three numbers !.
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John Free
The number would average 72 per year but in fairness a delusional anointed person lives longer than age 1. since an anointed person lives on average until say 60-65 remembering that health care has increased life spans only in the last 100-150 years and since JWism teaches only adults can be anointed the number should be 72 x 40 = 2280 who would be alive on average in any given year. (This is a very rough calculation)
I also doubt the Borg will allow this embarrassment to continue much longer. My prediction is that new light will cause the Borg to adjust the way numbers are to be counted.
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JW Kids Bullying My Daughter
by pale.emperor intrying not to type swearwords as i write this so bare with me.. my little 3yo attends meetings with her jw mum (who doesn't believe watchtower anymore but is stuck in because she relies on her family for help).
my mum (the one who tells people im dead) had a party for her grandchildren.
that's my 4 nieces and 1 nephew aged from 3yo-11yo.
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John Free
What a delightful daughter Pale Emp!
How sad that WT indoctrination has turned our relatives into cruel and toxic personalities. By their fruits...
Well done on making decisions that will help give your daughter a happier life.
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UK Charity Commision reports on Moston, Manchester Congregation.
by snugglebunny inhttps://www.gov.uk/government/news/investigation-leads-to-improvements-in-safeguarding-at-jehovahs-witnesses-charity.
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I need some help
by Akid48 inwell let me start with my age is 13 and i have been thinking about this jw thing and i need help i just dont know if i want to be one any more.. the help i need is some one to send me some links to places i can research i just dont know if i want to study with a jw any more..
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John Free
I said you we're smart! Sad that you have to do these things but the jw leadership is well aware that if you can control a person's information- then you can control the person. Preventing current members from communicating with former members is a key identifying mark of a cult. It took me 3 decades to work that out but you've got it at 13!
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I need some help
by Akid48 inwell let me start with my age is 13 and i have been thinking about this jw thing and i need help i just dont know if i want to be one any more.. the help i need is some one to send me some links to places i can research i just dont know if i want to study with a jw any more..
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John Free
Everything is going to be okay akid48. You seem to have picked up on the fact that JWs only like answering certain questions, if you ask questions that truly challenge their belief-they will avoid the question and eventually the questioner. Well done for that. You're still Young and have plenty of time to plan your future and strategy for leaving this group. For now my advice is 1. Avoid confrountation with jw family about their beliefs. This will get you nowhere. 2. Work hard at school in order to one day be independent. 3. Return to this site in secret to seek advice, people here do care and can guide you.
truly you have nothing to fear and you are smarter than me and many on this site who wasted years of life in this group. You have time on your side too.
welcome to the forum.
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I left the organization
by Issa ini left the organization.
my awakening was this month of july, the first week of july.
i couldn't answer my own questions about the organization or the doctrines, i couldn't understand the prophecies, i couldn't figure quite well what i was feeling.
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John Free
Hello Issa, welcome to freedom. As others have suggested it may be wise to hold off on the DA until you have more perspective. It is something that cannot be reversed and in some ways its what the cult would want you to do, since they can control your family more without your influence. Regardless of how you play it, a warm welcome!
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Hi from England
by victimofdeceit inrecently quit being a jw because i realised that beyond armageddon i was going to be ruled by people who cover up child abuse, not telling the congregations by their letter where the money they donated in the box is going towards paying compensation for legal battles which they caused, and also i was bullied by elders and discriminated against for being homosexual, even though i am not practicing it.
it wasn't until i threatened legal action for a breach of confidence that the elders were deleted.
so through the media and my own personal experience, i realised that they were no different to corrupt businesses in the world.
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John Free
Greetings from Wales victim of deceit. Welcome to the forum. Things, I assure you, will get better as time passes.
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The REAL Reason I Stopped Going to Meetings
by NoviceLocs14 into sum it up in all one word...pride.. i've always kind of attributed my subconscious "fade" to shame for living a double life by dating my non-jw boyfriend (now husband) while serving as a pioneer in the foreign language field.
but i was actually pretty regular for awhile.. my pioneer hours did start to dwindle, however.
i had always struggled with the hourly requirement, but i was really struggling now.
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John Free
No it wasn't pride. The washtowel simply creates an environment of absolute humility- in order to exert its control more fully over the drones. So that elders will be obeyed, so that doctrinal flip flops will never be questioned by the subdued subservients. You however were too strong for them, they couldn't bully you into submission.